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Batgirl Issue #1

This was going to go up sometime last night, but then my internet decided to derp and I lost the original post.  Not that that matters much though, because I finally got to read the new Batgirl!  Much as I’d expected, I walked away from reading it not really sure if I liked it or not.  This Babs went through the events of The Killing Joke, yes, but she was to all appearances still Batgirl at the time.  Why didn’t any of the bad guys put two and two together and figure out that the commissioner’s daughter and Batgirl were the same person when this happened?  Did someone step in with a red wig while she was out?  Did they start a rumor that she and the big Bat had a falling out and she quit after this?  The good news is that issue 1 does show Babs dealing with being out of her wheel chair and other characters reacting to it.  The bad news, to my mind anyway, is that this Babs never seems to have been Oracle.  I’m going to go on a bit of a tangent here, but Oracle!Babs is the only one I’ve read until now and I tend to associate Bat!Babs with the Batman Animated Series and her more carefree pre- Killing Joke incarnation, thus part of the lack of Oracle thing.

I’m of two minds here.  On one hand, it’s Barbara Gordon as Batgirl again and the writing is covering her reactions to things through the lens of a post- Killing Joke Babs. On the other hand, it’s Barbara Gordon as Batgirl again and I haven’t heard anything about what they’re going to do with the other two Batgirls, also back to the lack of Oracle.  Part of me is really happy because this is like a piece of my childhood coming back with the potential to be really awesome.  Another,somewhat larger part would have loved to see an Oracle who could (and would) step in when someone or something threatened her Birds but who was still more or less that Oracle.  Both parts found it rather hilarious when Babs corrected the people referring to her as Batwoman.

It’s probably obvious by now, but I’m going to give this at least a couple more months because it’s still Barbara Gordon as written by Gail Simone.  What about you guys?  Any thoughts on the DCnU now that stuff is actually happening?

So Babs was Still Oracle?

OK, I’m behind on this is a big way.  Apparently DC recently sent out a FAQ of sorts to some comic shops that explains about the new 52, mostly by talking about how “epic and ambitious” it is for the questions section and then going into marketing and  wordbites from various areas of the press.

Three things struck me about this, things that may make me a bit of a harder sell come September than I’d expected even given my current feelings towards this.  Countdown time.

3) The previously mentioned “epic and ambitious” comments – Yes, I get that this is supposed to be a really big deal for DC, but so was 52 and Final Crisis and Crisis on Infinite Earths and Darkest Night.  The fact that this seemed to be the answer for everything just doesn’t flow right for me for the same reason that I’m probably not going to check out someone’s band if all they can say is that it’s “epic”.  Sure it’s a bit ambitious to take this kind of chance with their current readers, but I would think that it would be more so to stick with what they already had and write from there.  Yes, it’s intimidating to get into comics at issue #643 or even issue #87 but I don’t think the renumbering is going to draw in that many new long term readers.  Why waste the word epic to describe it in your FAQ?  It’s over used anymore as is and makes the writer sound a bit like a parent trying to be “down with the young folks”.

2) Wonder Woman Listed as a “Possible Sleeper Hit” – She’s one of the big three, so this just throws me.  Yes, Wondy has some really wonky villains and some really messed up story lines, but she’s still billed as one of their big heroes and has a higher chance of getting marketed than just about any other DC heroine I can think of.  Do her comics really do that bad?  I don’t really have a problem on this one, just thrown off.

1) The Killing Joke Happened – This one bothers my sensibilities as a writer more than anything and for multiple reasons.  Firstly, if everything’s been condensed into five years, when did The Killing Joke happen?  This assumes that they haven’t tweaked it for the reboot and that Babs had already been Batgirl and wasn’t anymore at the time.  How long was she Batgirl if super heroes have only been around for five years and she had time as Oracle?  How long was she oracle?  Did she work with/lead the Birds of Prey?  They’re going to have to be really careful with explanations here.  I personally cannot see a Barbara Gordon who had been both Batgirl and Oracle going back to being Batgirl.  Making up a new identity and using that?  Well, yes, maybe even becoming a more action oriented version of Oracle but not taking back the Batmantle.

Also, if we assume that Babs was Oracle for a while, will there be mentions of Cassandra Cain’s Batgirl?  I’ve already heard rumors about Stephanie Brown being back without her Robin/Batgirl history.  Does that mean that we’re going to get Black Bat out of nowhere?  Where did all the Robins come from if Bats has only been at work for five years?  The FAQ said something about keeping some of the big character defining moments for characters.  Was Jason Todd still blown up by the Joker?  Was Cass still trained from birth to be the ultimate assassin?  Where in the world did Damian come from?  I’m off subject, but having The Killing Joke still in play as well as all the other Bats roaming around brings up far more questions that I think will get answered. It seems like a lazy set up to keep as many characters as possible without taking their histories into account.  I’d love to hear more on this if anyone knows anything about it.

I want to know what you guys have heard about the New 52.  Anything that doesn’t quite add up?  Wild mass guessing?  Anyone want to try to answer the Question?