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DC Rambling

I’ve been thinking since I posted the thing about DC nixing the Kate Kane/Maggie Sawyer wedding, but one of the things I really want to see more of is the two of them dealing with their relationship problems. Like, Maggie obviously had a thing about Kate having lied to her for their entire relationship by hiding that she is Batwoman. We’ve seen all of two scenes dealing with that and while both ended up with Kate sort of cowed, I don’t know that they’ve really dealt with stuff. I want to see an actual talk about this stuff rather than the “hey, as long as you don’t hurt my daughter or cheat on me” thing that we got before the second proposal. I want to see them deal with relationship stuff, be there for each other and react to not being able to be there for each other, both knowing that the other is doing seriously dangerous stuff.

Seeing them take a break from their relationship, not break up exactly but take a pause to sort things out apart, could be great especially with the “somehow Kate and Bruce fought and neither is dead or permanently injured” thing from Williams and Blackman’s arc going unfinished. I want to see the fall out if Toby or Renee show back up, or if Jamie doesn’t like Kate at all.

Plus, I honestly think that Kate Kane has serious amounts of growing up to do relationship wise. It’s like, they could work and they could work well, but Maggie seems like she’s the one making all the compromises for it to happen. Kate needs to meet her in the middle more. Less stunty “I did this to you, so I have to experience it myself so I understand just how bad it was” stuff, because another blogger was right, that could get taken to scary extremes really easily, and more “I know I did this and I can’t understand how it effected you, but what can I do to start making it better?” , more talking about problems.

I also want to see the inner personal fallout from the unfinished arc, because that really would have changed everything.

So, sign off if you’re out there and tell me what you think.

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No Wedding for the Wicked

Having just found out about J.H. Williams iii and W. Haden Blackman leaving the Batwoman comic over last minute editorial mandates being placed on story lines that were planned out well in advanced, the deal breaker apparently being DC disallowing Kate’s marriage to Gotham detective Maggie Sawyer, I figured I’d throw my two cents into the internet’s collective cap.  I’m also going to go ahead and post here that, while discussion is always a good thing, due to the apparent amount of political and religious vitriol I’ve seen on many other posts regarding this, I’ll be disemvoweling any posts that are hugely off topic in either of those directions.

For the moment, let’s just take it at face value that DC’s decision didn’t have anything to do with Kate and Maggie both being women.  Assume that it would have happened no matter what that DC would nix the marriage.

My big problem here as a reader, a writer, a reviewer, a consumer of media, whatever is that DC editorial doesn’t seem to have stopped Williams or Blackman from having Kate propose or any of the lead up mutual feelings scenes that humanized both characters.  Essentially, they gave all the build up to something that would have been really big for both characters and that would have effected how the interacted with not only each other and their families, but also the villains and just general people of Gotham.  They cancelled on what was, or felt like it should have been, a natural progression for the characters and an opening for really interesting possibilities for future side story bits, the kind of stuff that happens between the super villains.  It feels disingenuous on the parts of the editorial guys who have apparently decided that marriage makes for boring characters, to have let the lead up happen and then cancel on it at the last minute.  I will admit as sort of an aside here, I think a little more time could have been taken on the engagement and building up Batwoman’s rogue’s gallary and her support team, her family and her non-romantic relationships, more.  That would have been good for the character I think.

As a larger thing, the way DC has mishandled public relations on this is just breathtaking.  While I can understand that a company wide ban on marriages would include Batwoman, the fact remains that this wasn’t something that was just randomly sprung on anyone.  Williams has said from the beginning that Batwoman has been planned out several arcs ahead so that everything would go smoothly, it was even sited as part of the reason that the Batwoman on going comic kept getting pushed back.  This was something that should have been nipped in the bud early, before any proposals or even Kate and Maggie dating, just as part of writing in the New 52 if there was going to be a ban on married superheroes.

Now, remember that bit I mentioned up near the top about taking DC at face value on this?  That ties into both the mishandled PR and the overall ban on marriage.  Whether DC intended to make it a matter of the characters’ genders or not, they did.  I talk a lot to my friends about how awesome Batwoman is because she’s essentially Batman as a woman rather than the original Kathy Kane who was in it because she had a thing for the big bad Bat, but it isn’t entirely even.  If DC ever decided that they wanted to marry off Bruce Wayne to Selina Kyle or some other chick, that’s only a big deal because it’s Batman.  Given how much of a big deal gay marriage is, and likely will remain until everyone has equal rights under the law.  It’s down right boneheaded that readers heard from one of the writers, who was leaving the book, that he didn’t think this was about the characters’ sexuality.  That should have been one of the first things DC made a point of saying if only to help head off accusations of homophobia.  They didn’t though and, while I could easily be missing information here, the only things I’ve seen from anyone at DC other than Williams have been from Dan Didio.

I’m honestly not sure how to feel about that last bit.  On the one hand, it does feel like a natural flow for the narrative has been cut because DC editorial thinks that mariage makes characters boring.  On the other hand, I admit that this does feel a bit sensationalistic, Batwoman hasn’t really been treated as a character who happens to be gay rather than a gay character.  The little intro at the beginning of each issue makes sure to remind us that this is a lesbian character we’re reading about rather than letting us gather that from the comic itself.  When the writers leaving the title first became news, posts about it were overwhelmingly about the missing lesbian wedding rather than repeated last minute editorial changes.  Heck, even my post her focuses mostly on the wedding and it’s impact on things rather than on DC making poor choices with how they treat their talent.  It’s the big deal that DC didn’t want it to be and they don’t really seem to be doing anything about it.

I’ll probably come back later and chew this a bit more, focus on some of the plot stuff they could have done with married Kate and Maggie that wouldn’t make them boring.  I might talk about the whole “sacrifices” thing that Didio mentioned at some point as why superheroes can’t get hitched.  That’s all later though.

Batwoman #4

I’m slowly getting more used to trying to review comics, it’s still not the focus of the blog but I enjoy them and about half my daily views seem to be from people trying to find out when/if characters that I’ve talked about wanting to see in the DCnU will be showing up.  So, why not?

Issue four picks up almost immediately after issue three’s ending.  Bette Kane is back in the Flamebird costume ready to take down the scum of Gotham to prove herself to herself and probably her cousin.  Predictably, this does not go well and the reader is treated to  vibrantly colored scenes of Flamebird in a painfully one-sided fight interspersed with tasteful scenes of Kate and Maggie having comfort sex.  From there, Batwoman takes to the streets to track down the monster that’s been kidnapping Gotham’s children.  Meanwhile, Agent Chase tricks Bette into revealing her cousin’s name and, possibly, Batwoman’s identity.

Jumping right in, if Batwoman: Elegy hadn’t sold me on J.H. Willaims III’s art then this issue would have.  The Bette’s fight scene contrasts starkly with the clips of Kate and Maggie.  The bright colors of one really complemented the muted sketchy qualities of the other.  It makes what would have already been tender scenes all that much more so.  And the two page spread of Batwoman coming through that window where each scallop of her cape contains another panel was just awesome.

I find myself increasingly hoping that something really bad happens to Agent Chase.  On a logical level I know she’s just doing her job, but there’s a level of casual cruelty in the way she delt with Bette that just bothers me.  On the flipside, the more I read the more I like Maggie Sawyer.  She’s the beleaguered good cop here, the Commissioner Gordon to Kate’s Bat.  It makes me a bit less interested in seeing what happens when either she figures out that Kate’s Batwoman or Renee Montoya shows back up.

I’m impressed so far and I look quite forward to seeing what happens to wrap this arc up.

I find myself wondering just how they’re going to handle it when Maggie Sawyer eventually figures out that Kate is the Batwoman.  Is Kate going to tell her because she ultimately needs someone to rely on and having a Commissioner Gordon of her own would be a great help?  Will Maggie figure it out and confront her about it?  Will the confrontation be as a cop or as her girlfriend?  I’m almost expecting them to use Maggie eventually figuring Kate out as an excuse to bring Renee back in for some good old fashioned Batangst that ends with all three characters single and pissed at each other.  Maybe have Renee try to talk Kate in to telling Maggie because of the communication issues their relationship has been characterized by.

The blurb for issue three mentioned something about Kate’s “nocturnal activities” messing with her relationship with Maggie, so maybe we’re already going to see some suspicion on the good detective’s part?  I mean it’s not like her pale as death red headed new girlfriend and that pale as death red headed vigilante could have anything to do with each other.  Nothing at all.

I don’t know, what do you guys think?