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Let’s Talk About Batwoman

So, I’ve been putting off doing my Edge of Tomorrow Book Vs. Movie post for awhile now, it’s still in the works I’m just not sure where I’m going with it and want to pull it together a bit more before posting.  So, instead of that, let’s talk about Batwoman.  More than that even, let’s talk about the fact that DC/Andreyko/Bat-editorial has decided that Kate Kane needs to break up with her fiance Maggie Sawyer.

Having stopped getting my pull list for various reasons I’m obviously a little behind on this.  The back story, for those of you who don’t follow the comic, involves Maggie’s ex-husband suing for full custody of their daughter.  Despite knowing that Maggie is a lesbian, that being the reason he has primary custody in the first place, he’s found out that she’s dating and that Jamie has met Kate and that just isn’t OK with him.  So Maggie’s off fighting that while Kate is back in Gotham being the title character and feeling like Maggie would be better off without her or doesn’t want her, because Maggie is busy trying to keep her ability to see her daughter and doesn’t realize that her fiance’s relationship fears run this deep.  Kate cuts a deal with the homophobic ex-husband, he drops the suit and she’ll stay away from Maggie and the kid.  She doesn’t talk to Maggie about this or have the decency to break up with her to her face, no, she leaves a note and moves her stuff out.  The issue ends with vampire sex because reasons?

This is one of those things where I’m honestly not surprised that the fandom doesn’t seem to be saying much.  It isn’t that is doesn’t absolutely suck on a number of levels, it’s that it’s kind of expected.  There is no shock here.  For Future’s End, DC already said, “Hey Batwoman was turned into a vampire by her ex, Nocturna”, so unless they were going to have her ex from West Point be the villain, she was going to wind up breaking up with Maggie or they were going to kill Maggie off. 

It’s also a really poor way of going about the break up and really does nothing to serve either of the characters.  Maggie’s set back to square one as far as custody is concerned, which in this case is almost a good thing, but she no longer has her apparently loving fiance to offer emotional support.  Kate went from doing just about everything she could to help to making a shitty deal, without talking to Maggie about it at all, and then leaving her seemingly out of nowhere.  This isn’t a solution.  It just tells Maggie’s ex that he can pull this again when she starts dating someone else.  It makes Kate look terribly childish and somewhat stupid, seriously, she can’t think that this is a permanent fix.  I’m now imagining Batwoman scaring off all of Maggie’s future dates, for her own good you see.

This is also where I admit, I’m finding myself not at all a fan of Andreyko’s writing.  I don’t know how much of this is editorial mandates and how much of it is him, and I’d heard good things about his previous work, but this is just bad.  I get that DC is going for dark and serious but this is just ridiculous and, as with before with fans already knowing this was coming, I think that there hasn’t been as much of an out cry on this one because people just don’t care any more.  They’ve taken a character with tons of potential and, like a lot of their other characters, just buried her in grimness and everything constantly getting worse and I think that people have become numb to that.  There isn’t a ray of hope or a safe home for Batwoman, so what does anything matter?

I’ll probably post more on this later, ways that I think they could have handled it better.  But I’m tired.

DC Rambling

I’ve been thinking since I posted the thing about DC nixing the Kate Kane/Maggie Sawyer wedding, but one of the things I really want to see more of is the two of them dealing with their relationship problems. Like, Maggie obviously had a thing about Kate having lied to her for their entire relationship by hiding that she is Batwoman. We’ve seen all of two scenes dealing with that and while both ended up with Kate sort of cowed, I don’t know that they’ve really dealt with stuff. I want to see an actual talk about this stuff rather than the “hey, as long as you don’t hurt my daughter or cheat on me” thing that we got before the second proposal. I want to see them deal with relationship stuff, be there for each other and react to not being able to be there for each other, both knowing that the other is doing seriously dangerous stuff.

Seeing them take a break from their relationship, not break up exactly but take a pause to sort things out apart, could be great especially with the “somehow Kate and Bruce fought and neither is dead or permanently injured” thing from Williams and Blackman’s arc going unfinished. I want to see the fall out if Toby or Renee show back up, or if Jamie doesn’t like Kate at all.

Plus, I honestly think that Kate Kane has serious amounts of growing up to do relationship wise. It’s like, they could work and they could work well, but Maggie seems like she’s the one making all the compromises for it to happen. Kate needs to meet her in the middle more. Less stunty “I did this to you, so I have to experience it myself so I understand just how bad it was” stuff, because another blogger was right, that could get taken to scary extremes really easily, and more “I know I did this and I can’t understand how it effected you, but what can I do to start making it better?” , more talking about problems.

I also want to see the inner personal fallout from the unfinished arc, because that really would have changed everything.

So, sign off if you’re out there and tell me what you think.

No Wedding for the Wicked

Having just found out about J.H. Williams iii and W. Haden Blackman leaving the Batwoman comic over last minute editorial mandates being placed on story lines that were planned out well in advanced, the deal breaker apparently being DC disallowing Kate’s marriage to Gotham detective Maggie Sawyer, I figured I’d throw my two cents into the internet’s collective cap.  I’m also going to go ahead and post here that, while discussion is always a good thing, due to the apparent amount of political and religious vitriol I’ve seen on many other posts regarding this, I’ll be disemvoweling any posts that are hugely off topic in either of those directions.

For the moment, let’s just take it at face value that DC’s decision didn’t have anything to do with Kate and Maggie both being women.  Assume that it would have happened no matter what that DC would nix the marriage.

My big problem here as a reader, a writer, a reviewer, a consumer of media, whatever is that DC editorial doesn’t seem to have stopped Williams or Blackman from having Kate propose or any of the lead up mutual feelings scenes that humanized both characters.  Essentially, they gave all the build up to something that would have been really big for both characters and that would have effected how the interacted with not only each other and their families, but also the villains and just general people of Gotham.  They cancelled on what was, or felt like it should have been, a natural progression for the characters and an opening for really interesting possibilities for future side story bits, the kind of stuff that happens between the super villains.  It feels disingenuous on the parts of the editorial guys who have apparently decided that marriage makes for boring characters, to have let the lead up happen and then cancel on it at the last minute.  I will admit as sort of an aside here, I think a little more time could have been taken on the engagement and building up Batwoman’s rogue’s gallary and her support team, her family and her non-romantic relationships, more.  That would have been good for the character I think.

As a larger thing, the way DC has mishandled public relations on this is just breathtaking.  While I can understand that a company wide ban on marriages would include Batwoman, the fact remains that this wasn’t something that was just randomly sprung on anyone.  Williams has said from the beginning that Batwoman has been planned out several arcs ahead so that everything would go smoothly, it was even sited as part of the reason that the Batwoman on going comic kept getting pushed back.  This was something that should have been nipped in the bud early, before any proposals or even Kate and Maggie dating, just as part of writing in the New 52 if there was going to be a ban on married superheroes.

Now, remember that bit I mentioned up near the top about taking DC at face value on this?  That ties into both the mishandled PR and the overall ban on marriage.  Whether DC intended to make it a matter of the characters’ genders or not, they did.  I talk a lot to my friends about how awesome Batwoman is because she’s essentially Batman as a woman rather than the original Kathy Kane who was in it because she had a thing for the big bad Bat, but it isn’t entirely even.  If DC ever decided that they wanted to marry off Bruce Wayne to Selina Kyle or some other chick, that’s only a big deal because it’s Batman.  Given how much of a big deal gay marriage is, and likely will remain until everyone has equal rights under the law.  It’s down right boneheaded that readers heard from one of the writers, who was leaving the book, that he didn’t think this was about the characters’ sexuality.  That should have been one of the first things DC made a point of saying if only to help head off accusations of homophobia.  They didn’t though and, while I could easily be missing information here, the only things I’ve seen from anyone at DC other than Williams have been from Dan Didio.

I’m honestly not sure how to feel about that last bit.  On the one hand, it does feel like a natural flow for the narrative has been cut because DC editorial thinks that mariage makes characters boring.  On the other hand, I admit that this does feel a bit sensationalistic, Batwoman hasn’t really been treated as a character who happens to be gay rather than a gay character.  The little intro at the beginning of each issue makes sure to remind us that this is a lesbian character we’re reading about rather than letting us gather that from the comic itself.  When the writers leaving the title first became news, posts about it were overwhelmingly about the missing lesbian wedding rather than repeated last minute editorial changes.  Heck, even my post her focuses mostly on the wedding and it’s impact on things rather than on DC making poor choices with how they treat their talent.  It’s the big deal that DC didn’t want it to be and they don’t really seem to be doing anything about it.

I’ll probably come back later and chew this a bit more, focus on some of the plot stuff they could have done with married Kate and Maggie that wouldn’t make them boring.  I might talk about the whole “sacrifices” thing that Didio mentioned at some point as why superheroes can’t get hitched.  That’s all later though.

Yeah, I’m back on this again and ignoring that review that I’ll be posting probably either later tonight or sometime tomorrow.  Here’s the thing, I’ve been a fan of Barbara Gordon since back in the nineties with Batman the Animated Series when I had no clue that the comics were any different.   Back then, I had no idea that The Killing Joke had happened or that there was a second Batgirl.  This was the character that I wanted to grow up to be.  She was like Velma but with more attitude and she got to work with Batman.

Fast forward to sometime during high school and I’ve heard of The Killing Joke but not read it.  I’ve heard that there was a second Batgirl and that she was rather poorly delt with for a chunk of her run in the cape.  But I hadn’t really started reading comics yet.  The Sandman, sure but that was because the school library had it in trade paperbacks and I had free time while being a library aide.  It was around this time that I started to get more interested in comics as a whole, so I’d started reading up on DC’s super heroes to see who I wanted to focus on.

Fast forward again to around February.  Holy cow there’s going to be a Batwoman monthly comic!  Issue #0 is coming out and The Question is going to be in Birds of Prey!  I was practically dancing in my seat with this one.  Plus I was trying to keep up with the Odyssy of Wonder Woman arc of Wonder Woman because I wanted to see how they changed the character.  And follow it through to Flashpoint and my various rants on that, it’s really one of the things that sticks out at me as a forced money grab even now.  But I’ve finally got that Batwoman ongoing as part of my draw list, and Birds of Prey is still pretty cool even without Lady Blackhawk or Huntress.

It’s kind of itchy though, reading Batgirl and seeing Barbara go from tough leadery Oracle to a Batgirl so full of self doubt that I almost expect that the villain is going to wind up doing himself in rather than her winning.This is where I get to the meat of my ramble, don’t worry the rest was just back story.  Now, not all of the sources agree, but apparently Babs was Oracle sometime during those three years post-Flashpoint.  Why isn’t she still?  I’m basing this mostly on the character I was reading back in Birds of Prey but it’s hard to see her giving up the autonomy of being a hero on her own to step back under the Batmantle.  Out of the chair she’s still the same character, or at least she should be.  Post-Flashpoint Batgirl seems to assume a Barbara who never quit being Batgirl prior to The Killing Joke, one who would go back to that after having been Oracle.

This is a character who questioned her reasons for crime fighting right up through the eighties when she quit and was then shot in the spine for being related to Batman’s supporting cast.  Except it isn’t anymore, maybe.  What was DCnU Barbara Gordon like before the Joker shot her?  Was she Silver Age Batgirl with her Batpurse and day job as a librarian?  Was she BtAS Batgirl the plucky not quite side kick?  Heck, was she Stephanie Brown with red hair and no history as Spoiler?  I’m growing tired of DCnU Batgirl’s near constant self questioning.  I understand that she’s not at a hundred percent yet and I understand that Gail Simone is laying the basis for the rest of the comic, but the more I read the less I like Babs and the more I want to just quietly go back to finding Oracle’s appearances in trade paperbacks.

This is one of those situations where I want to see what other people have to say about this.  I’m going to keep reading for at least the next arc to see how DCnU Babs develops, but I’m thinking that this may not be something that stays on my draw list much longer. What do you think internets?  Does the current incarnation make more sense to you that it does me?  Where do you think Simone is going to go with Batgirl from here?

Well, This is a Thing

I’m still working on that review and I’m still having problems with my intro to it.  Starting to think that I’m over thinking this whole thing.  Got a couple of other reviews to get written.  I picked up my draw box, so I’m probably going to rant a bit about Birds of Prey and Batwoman at some point which may involve spoilers for other things from before Flashpoint.  Brain is fuzzy because I slept most of the weekend.

I’m also excited because one of the authors I reviewed recently was kind enough to give my review a shout out on his Amazon page, so thanks to Guy James for that!

Towards the end of the week we’ll be having a guest post from J.N. Duncan, author of Deadworld and The Vengeful Dead to celebrate the release of his second Jackie Rutledge novel.

I’m about to fall asleep on my keyboard no matter how excited I am though and will have something more coherent posted later in the day.

Batgirl Issue #1

This was going to go up sometime last night, but then my internet decided to derp and I lost the original post.  Not that that matters much though, because I finally got to read the new Batgirl!  Much as I’d expected, I walked away from reading it not really sure if I liked it or not.  This Babs went through the events of The Killing Joke, yes, but she was to all appearances still Batgirl at the time.  Why didn’t any of the bad guys put two and two together and figure out that the commissioner’s daughter and Batgirl were the same person when this happened?  Did someone step in with a red wig while she was out?  Did they start a rumor that she and the big Bat had a falling out and she quit after this?  The good news is that issue 1 does show Babs dealing with being out of her wheel chair and other characters reacting to it.  The bad news, to my mind anyway, is that this Babs never seems to have been Oracle.  I’m going to go on a bit of a tangent here, but Oracle!Babs is the only one I’ve read until now and I tend to associate Bat!Babs with the Batman Animated Series and her more carefree pre- Killing Joke incarnation, thus part of the lack of Oracle thing.

I’m of two minds here.  On one hand, it’s Barbara Gordon as Batgirl again and the writing is covering her reactions to things through the lens of a post- Killing Joke Babs. On the other hand, it’s Barbara Gordon as Batgirl again and I haven’t heard anything about what they’re going to do with the other two Batgirls, also back to the lack of Oracle.  Part of me is really happy because this is like a piece of my childhood coming back with the potential to be really awesome.  Another,somewhat larger part would have loved to see an Oracle who could (and would) step in when someone or something threatened her Birds but who was still more or less that Oracle.  Both parts found it rather hilarious when Babs corrected the people referring to her as Batwoman.

It’s probably obvious by now, but I’m going to give this at least a couple more months because it’s still Barbara Gordon as written by Gail Simone.  What about you guys?  Any thoughts on the DCnU now that stuff is actually happening?

Birds of Prey Issues 14 and15

I’ve probably mentioned that I was a bit disapointed when Gail Simone’s being moved off of BoP to work on DCnU stuff cut short the arc featuring the Question.  Yes, I’m still on that.  I’m also fairly sure that I’ve mentioned Lady Blackhawk punching Nazis on issue 14 being rather awesome.  It’s awesome to see Zinda interacting with people who knew her back before she got tossed forward in time.  It’s kind of interesting to see psychic clone Nazis versus the Birds of Prey and the flash backs to the mission back in World War 2.    But it still feels like filler.  This didn’t do anything to further the story.  It introduced a bit of history, yes, but this was stand alone in the worst way I can think of.   I know this was just holding time until September’s issue, but more could have been done with either story.

Away from complaining, Zinda referring to herself as a senior citizen was hilarious as was the utter lack of change between 1940’s Zinda and 2011 Zinda.  The end boss could have been a terrifying threat if he’d had a couple more issues to show the terror of an over muscled psychic on the warpath.  Also the clones were creepy as anything I can think of off the top off my head.

This more or less adds up to my wondering, I’ve read the last issues for Batgirl and BoP and Wonder Woman,  how many of the August DC comics were filler and how many actually wrapped up the comic they belong to?

So Babs was Still Oracle?

OK, I’m behind on this is a big way.  Apparently DC recently sent out a FAQ of sorts to some comic shops that explains about the new 52, mostly by talking about how “epic and ambitious” it is for the questions section and then going into marketing and  wordbites from various areas of the press.

Three things struck me about this, things that may make me a bit of a harder sell come September than I’d expected even given my current feelings towards this.  Countdown time.

3) The previously mentioned “epic and ambitious” comments – Yes, I get that this is supposed to be a really big deal for DC, but so was 52 and Final Crisis and Crisis on Infinite Earths and Darkest Night.  The fact that this seemed to be the answer for everything just doesn’t flow right for me for the same reason that I’m probably not going to check out someone’s band if all they can say is that it’s “epic”.  Sure it’s a bit ambitious to take this kind of chance with their current readers, but I would think that it would be more so to stick with what they already had and write from there.  Yes, it’s intimidating to get into comics at issue #643 or even issue #87 but I don’t think the renumbering is going to draw in that many new long term readers.  Why waste the word epic to describe it in your FAQ?  It’s over used anymore as is and makes the writer sound a bit like a parent trying to be “down with the young folks”.

2) Wonder Woman Listed as a “Possible Sleeper Hit” – She’s one of the big three, so this just throws me.  Yes, Wondy has some really wonky villains and some really messed up story lines, but she’s still billed as one of their big heroes and has a higher chance of getting marketed than just about any other DC heroine I can think of.  Do her comics really do that bad?  I don’t really have a problem on this one, just thrown off.

1) The Killing Joke Happened – This one bothers my sensibilities as a writer more than anything and for multiple reasons.  Firstly, if everything’s been condensed into five years, when did The Killing Joke happen?  This assumes that they haven’t tweaked it for the reboot and that Babs had already been Batgirl and wasn’t anymore at the time.  How long was she Batgirl if super heroes have only been around for five years and she had time as Oracle?  How long was she oracle?  Did she work with/lead the Birds of Prey?  They’re going to have to be really careful with explanations here.  I personally cannot see a Barbara Gordon who had been both Batgirl and Oracle going back to being Batgirl.  Making up a new identity and using that?  Well, yes, maybe even becoming a more action oriented version of Oracle but not taking back the Batmantle.

Also, if we assume that Babs was Oracle for a while, will there be mentions of Cassandra Cain’s Batgirl?  I’ve already heard rumors about Stephanie Brown being back without her Robin/Batgirl history.  Does that mean that we’re going to get Black Bat out of nowhere?  Where did all the Robins come from if Bats has only been at work for five years?  The FAQ said something about keeping some of the big character defining moments for characters.  Was Jason Todd still blown up by the Joker?  Was Cass still trained from birth to be the ultimate assassin?  Where in the world did Damian come from?  I’m off subject, but having The Killing Joke still in play as well as all the other Bats roaming around brings up far more questions that I think will get answered. It seems like a lazy set up to keep as many characters as possible without taking their histories into account.  I’d love to hear more on this if anyone knows anything about it.

I want to know what you guys have heard about the New 52.  Anything that doesn’t quite add up?  Wild mass guessing?  Anyone want to try to answer the Question?

Birds of Prey Issue 13

Hey guess what?  I’m chewing this bone again, but with a direct reason this time.  I picked my draw box up today, honestly not sure why I didn’t wait until July but there you go,  and got the last issue of the current run of Birds of Prey.  Now, first off, I have to admit that the only reason I started reading Birds was because I read somewhere that the Question was going to be in several issues a while back and I liked what I’d heard of the character.  I figured that it would last at least three issues based on the first part, maybe four so that they’d have something to wind up before jumping into the reboot.  I didn’t pay attention to the dates printed on them, why would August’s issue be out in June?  So, I’m a bit miffed there.

This is one of those things that I kind of feel cheated knowing that it’s the last one and then being left at a cliff hanger where there isn’t going to be a next issue.  I feel like there should have been more but DC, doubtless wanting to get ready for September, just cut it off and told Gail Simone to end it immediately.  It was kind of a slap in the face that I paid three bucks for something that reads like the author was told to slap an ending on whatever she had and be done with it.

I bought this to see the Question being awesome, instead I got two decent comics one of which actually featured the character I bought them for.  Maybe DC will eventually give fans back the current world and this will eventually be revisited, but I am disappointed.

Yeah, I decided to do this.  I know they’re saying that it isn’t actually a reboot, but considering the changes that are being made and the renumbering, I call bull on that.

So, why is the book reviewer talking comics?  Because I like the stories and any number of the characters and because it seems really bone headed of DC to be doing another reboot so soon after 52.  Let’s take t from the top then, shall we?

Barbara Gordon as Batgirl again:  This really isn’t such a terrible thing just looking at it.  Babs is the Batgirl that’s used in just about any mainstream Batman related media, but she’s also so much more than Batgirl as of now.  What happens to Oracle now that Babs is back on the streets of Gotham?  Is she going to be replaced by Proxy?  Will she just stop existing or become what Babs does when there are no major crimes happening in Gotham?  For that matter, what happens to Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown, the other two Batgirls?  Given what DC is doing with other members of the Batfamily, maybe Stephanie will go back to being Spoiler and Cassandra will show up in Batman Inc. as the Black Bat.  Which leads to another question.  Why are three of the five Robins getting front billing on their own comics, but two of the three Batgirls are getting shafted?  That doesn’t seem right.

Birds of Prey:  I can kind of understand the need for a new line up here what with Oracle not being Oracle any more and Hawk and Dove getting their own comic again, but what about Lady Blackhawk?  Is she going to be in the Blackhawks reboot that seems totally unnecessary and more grimdark than anything since the mid-nineties?  Are they getting rid of her because of the Blackhawks reboot?  Who is new girl with the tattoos?  What is Poison Ivy doing 1) as a good guy and 2) wearing spandex?  I always figured that her costume was plant matter of some sort and short to draw in men and readers.  Why does Black Canary need a new costume besides DC claiming that all the heroes get new outfits?  I just don’t see this working out well, not going to stop me from reading the first few issues but the changes seem unnecessary to the max.

Harley Quinn:  Just Harley Quinn.  DC seems to be ignoring what made the character popular enough to bring from Batman the Animated Series to the DCU proper, people liked the Joker’s sometimes goofy sometimes terrifyingly effective hench wench.  The new design and her apparent disconnect from the Joker could easily kill reader interest for the character.  I could be wrong, people could love her, but it seems like DC would have done better to just make a new character.

Batwoman: This is going to get into some minor character stuff and complaints about timeline shenanigans.  I’ve been waiting to read Batwoman one since February, so I’m kind of excited that it’s finally going to happen but what kinds of changes can we expect to have happened between now and the reboot?  Best I know Kate was introduced during 52 and then was the lead for Detective comics for awhile, so she’s a fairly new character.   How much of what’s already happened with her is going to stand?  Does she have the same back story and the same military history?  Do she and Renee Montoya still have the same personal history?  If so, is Renee still the Question?  Is Alice still Kate’s Joker or will she be written out to provide a surprise appearance by Kate’s no longer dead twin later on?  How do the changes in the time line effect the characters who will appear?  This is probably one of the new titles that I have the most questions about what and how much will be changed.  It’s new enough that they can more or less start from whole cloth and not break too much, but at the same time J. H. Williams III has been working on it since at least February.  Does that change anything or did he know from the start that there was a reboot coming?  Also, does Bab’s return to the Batsuit make Kate kind of unnecessary?  They are completely different characters but, given that DC doesn’t seem to be doing anything with the other two Batgirls, can we expect the company to give both of them the same face time that they will their male heroes without making an utter joke about both of them?

The Robins: I’ve mentioned this a little earlier, but why do three of the four former Robins get top billing on their own comics?  Stephanie, the fourth Robin, was Spoiler after being Robin but  before becoming Batgirl.  Why haven’t we seen anything with her as a major character?  Heck, Jason Todd was dead until a couple of years ago, why’s he get to lead his own team?  Why is there still a Damian Wayne if Cassandra Cain is gone?  Given that DC said it wants to have more diversity, why are they giving such attention to a bunch of black haired, blue- eyed, dudes?  Why not ditch at least one of them and keep another female Bat?  I really want to see their reasoning behind this.

So Many Batman Comics: Pulling up a list of post reboot comics, Batman shows up in at least 6 not including the further 7 involving various members of the Batfamily.  I understand that Bats makes DC a lot of money, I get that, but if they’re going to make a big deal of having 52 new number one issues why not limit Bruce to his own comic and one of the new team ups?  There are only so many places that Batman can be at once and they seem content to saturate the reboot with more Bruce Wayne.  Yes, I know that there are 3 Green Lantern comics coming out, but at least there are also three Earth based Green Lanterns.

Black Hawks Reboot: Heroes from the greatest generation get rebooted as mercenaries and soldiers for hire.  Apparently Zinda Blake has either been rebooted or is hiding from the shame of it.  Seems like needless war grimdark.

Sargent Rock Reboot: More seemingly needless new stuff.  Sargent Rock was the last man killed on the last day of World War 2 with the last bullet fired, he shouldn’t be replaced by his grandson.  Easy company should not become mercenaries.  This seems like more of an attempt to piss off older readers than an attempt to draw in new ones.

I’ll probably have more to say on the matter when the reboot actually happens.  I’ll probably complain about there not being nearly enough of the Question, but that’s for then.  I really haven’t heard any more than the average comic reader on this, but something of this scope seems like it could have been thought out better.  What I’m wondering now is what you guys think.