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On Alternate Universes

Don’t run off too quickly on this one, but I’ve been watching the Rizzoli and Isles TV show a lot recently and it’s left me thinking about the differences and similarities in the characters.  Same thing with the Injustice comic to the main DCU. Possible spoilers ahead kids, I’m gonna get to ifing.

 

I like alternate universes, especially when fan cannon comes into play, seeing how little changes effect the characters and their world.  Like, what would happen if the Surgeon, the first Rizzoli and Isles villain, had died in the first book instead of being paralysed at the end of the second.  That would have definitely effected the second book, there would have been no Surgeon to have an Apprentice, so there would have been no need for Agent Dean to be called in, so he and Rizzoli wouldn’t have met at that time or under those circumstances.  They probably wouldn’t have had sex or gotten married. This could have resulted in Rizzoli taking longer to cool down.  I’m not even sure how that would have effected her working with Isles.

 

Change it a little more, make Isles more similar to her TV persona, more open and friendly but socially uncomfortable.  How does it change things?  The characters in the books aren’t as friendly as their TV counterparts and Isles was introduced in the second book, when Rizzoli was still very abrasive and closed off.  While not a ton is done with Rizzoli and Isles’ non-work interactions in the books, by the end of the last book it is more than safe to say that they’re friends even if to a less touchy extent than on the show.  How would a different Isles  change that?

Heck, switch gears.  What happens if, instead of Batman, we have Detective Bruce Wayne of the GCPD?  He’s still richer than the Catholic church, his back story is still more or less the same, same intense training before returning to Gotham, he just decides to become a cop to clean up his city rather than Batman.  It could still have the Robins in various ways, Dick Greyson as a junior detective who gets partnered with Bruce would work easily, especially since he was a police officer in some of the older Nightwing comics. Jason Todd could show up as either another partner, if they wanted Dick to move to another precinct or division, or an informant of Bruce’s who later becomes suspect and gets killed by the Joker as a result.  Barbara Gordon and Tim Drake would make awesome CSI type characters.  There’s a ton that could be done with that, both as a Gotham Central esque book focusing on that and to see what would happen with the rest of the DCU’s heroes without Batman there.

They did something similar with The Nail, where Superman wasn’t found by the Kents and was instead raised by and Amish couple.  He didn’t become Superman until much later on than in the main world and his world reflects that.  I really like seeing stuff like that even if it doesn’t have a lasting effect on the main continuity.

That’s about it for now, I could go on about stuff like this for novels and novels and more.

Yeah, I decided to do this.  I know they’re saying that it isn’t actually a reboot, but considering the changes that are being made and the renumbering, I call bull on that.

So, why is the book reviewer talking comics?  Because I like the stories and any number of the characters and because it seems really bone headed of DC to be doing another reboot so soon after 52.  Let’s take t from the top then, shall we?

Barbara Gordon as Batgirl again:  This really isn’t such a terrible thing just looking at it.  Babs is the Batgirl that’s used in just about any mainstream Batman related media, but she’s also so much more than Batgirl as of now.  What happens to Oracle now that Babs is back on the streets of Gotham?  Is she going to be replaced by Proxy?  Will she just stop existing or become what Babs does when there are no major crimes happening in Gotham?  For that matter, what happens to Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown, the other two Batgirls?  Given what DC is doing with other members of the Batfamily, maybe Stephanie will go back to being Spoiler and Cassandra will show up in Batman Inc. as the Black Bat.  Which leads to another question.  Why are three of the five Robins getting front billing on their own comics, but two of the three Batgirls are getting shafted?  That doesn’t seem right.

Birds of Prey:  I can kind of understand the need for a new line up here what with Oracle not being Oracle any more and Hawk and Dove getting their own comic again, but what about Lady Blackhawk?  Is she going to be in the Blackhawks reboot that seems totally unnecessary and more grimdark than anything since the mid-nineties?  Are they getting rid of her because of the Blackhawks reboot?  Who is new girl with the tattoos?  What is Poison Ivy doing 1) as a good guy and 2) wearing spandex?  I always figured that her costume was plant matter of some sort and short to draw in men and readers.  Why does Black Canary need a new costume besides DC claiming that all the heroes get new outfits?  I just don’t see this working out well, not going to stop me from reading the first few issues but the changes seem unnecessary to the max.

Harley Quinn:  Just Harley Quinn.  DC seems to be ignoring what made the character popular enough to bring from Batman the Animated Series to the DCU proper, people liked the Joker’s sometimes goofy sometimes terrifyingly effective hench wench.  The new design and her apparent disconnect from the Joker could easily kill reader interest for the character.  I could be wrong, people could love her, but it seems like DC would have done better to just make a new character.

Batwoman: This is going to get into some minor character stuff and complaints about timeline shenanigans.  I’ve been waiting to read Batwoman one since February, so I’m kind of excited that it’s finally going to happen but what kinds of changes can we expect to have happened between now and the reboot?  Best I know Kate was introduced during 52 and then was the lead for Detective comics for awhile, so she’s a fairly new character.   How much of what’s already happened with her is going to stand?  Does she have the same back story and the same military history?  Do she and Renee Montoya still have the same personal history?  If so, is Renee still the Question?  Is Alice still Kate’s Joker or will she be written out to provide a surprise appearance by Kate’s no longer dead twin later on?  How do the changes in the time line effect the characters who will appear?  This is probably one of the new titles that I have the most questions about what and how much will be changed.  It’s new enough that they can more or less start from whole cloth and not break too much, but at the same time J. H. Williams III has been working on it since at least February.  Does that change anything or did he know from the start that there was a reboot coming?  Also, does Bab’s return to the Batsuit make Kate kind of unnecessary?  They are completely different characters but, given that DC doesn’t seem to be doing anything with the other two Batgirls, can we expect the company to give both of them the same face time that they will their male heroes without making an utter joke about both of them?

The Robins: I’ve mentioned this a little earlier, but why do three of the four former Robins get top billing on their own comics?  Stephanie, the fourth Robin, was Spoiler after being Robin but  before becoming Batgirl.  Why haven’t we seen anything with her as a major character?  Heck, Jason Todd was dead until a couple of years ago, why’s he get to lead his own team?  Why is there still a Damian Wayne if Cassandra Cain is gone?  Given that DC said it wants to have more diversity, why are they giving such attention to a bunch of black haired, blue- eyed, dudes?  Why not ditch at least one of them and keep another female Bat?  I really want to see their reasoning behind this.

So Many Batman Comics: Pulling up a list of post reboot comics, Batman shows up in at least 6 not including the further 7 involving various members of the Batfamily.  I understand that Bats makes DC a lot of money, I get that, but if they’re going to make a big deal of having 52 new number one issues why not limit Bruce to his own comic and one of the new team ups?  There are only so many places that Batman can be at once and they seem content to saturate the reboot with more Bruce Wayne.  Yes, I know that there are 3 Green Lantern comics coming out, but at least there are also three Earth based Green Lanterns.

Black Hawks Reboot: Heroes from the greatest generation get rebooted as mercenaries and soldiers for hire.  Apparently Zinda Blake has either been rebooted or is hiding from the shame of it.  Seems like needless war grimdark.

Sargent Rock Reboot: More seemingly needless new stuff.  Sargent Rock was the last man killed on the last day of World War 2 with the last bullet fired, he shouldn’t be replaced by his grandson.  Easy company should not become mercenaries.  This seems like more of an attempt to piss off older readers than an attempt to draw in new ones.

I’ll probably have more to say on the matter when the reboot actually happens.  I’ll probably complain about there not being nearly enough of the Question, but that’s for then.  I really haven’t heard any more than the average comic reader on this, but something of this scope seems like it could have been thought out better.  What I’m wondering now is what you guys think.